Sen. Ted Cruz, R-Texas, sparred with Human Rights Campaign President Kelley Robinson about whether men and women are different.
Competitive swimmer Riley Gaines appeared on Capitol Hill Wednesday at the Senate’s hearing on “Protecting Pride: Defending the Civil Rights of LGBTQ+ Americans.” Gaines became a national figure when she objected to trans swimmer Lia Thomas participating in women’s sports, helping propel a national conversation about whether it is fair to biological women to allow those born as men to compete.
Cruz spoke to Gaines and asked, “Let me ask you as someone who competed at the elite level, in your experiences, is there a difference between women and men?”
“Of course, I think we learned this had a very young age, watching even 12-and-unders play. Going through puberty causes irreversible advantage that no matter the training, no matter the diet, no matter any alterable change you can make, will overcome that male advantage, especially in sports like swimming, where lung capacity matters so much,” she said. “Even something as silly as throat size, men have, on average a 40% larger throat, which sounds like it’s nothing, but when you’re grasping for air that 40 percent larger throat makes a huge difference and athletic success, not to mention height, you guys know the differences.”
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Cruz then turned to Robinson, who serves as the president at the Human Rights Campaign, a far-left civil rights organization that calls itself “America’s largest civil rights organization working to achieve equality and liberation for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender and queer people.”
Cruz asked, “Do you agree with Miss Gaines that there’s a difference between women and men?”
“I’m going to try again, do you believe there’s a difference between women and men? It’s a yes/no question.” Cruz said. “Do you believe there’s a difference?”
“I think we’re talking about this case with the NCAA,” Robinson replied.
“No, I’m asking a question,” Cruz said. “Do you believe there’s a difference between women and men? Most people could answer this very simply, I’m curious if you’re willing to do so.”
Robinson’s credentials as a progressive activist are posted on the HRC’s official website, noting she previously has served as the Executive Director of Planned Parenthood Action Fund and been both a community organizer and “progressive leader,” who has been “at the forefront in the fight for bodily autonomy and racial and gender equity, with a focus on lifting up marginalized communities and building political power.”
Another page on the HRC noted that Robinson “started her career as a community organizer for Barack Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign in Missouri.”
Former NCAA swimmer Riley Gaines previously spoke to Congress about an incident on April 6, 2023, when she claims to have been held for ransom at San Francisco State University. (Homeland Security Subcommittee via YouTube) (Homeland Security Subcommittee via YouTube)
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“But why have a separate category for women?” Cruz asked. “If there’s no difference between women and men, why have women’s sports?
“I’m saying that there’s a difference between sex and gender and that the NCAA has rules in place which they have for the latest decade,” Robinson replied.
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